Much more of Father Keating this time, Ken Wilber speaks as well. Both of these Beings, as far as my present understanding is concerned, have very lucid understandings of the nature of reality, our interconnection with all, and the means by which to go beyond our idea of a small separate self, to the reality of our Big, interconnected self- contemplation, as Father Keating might put it. Meditation as Ken Wilber might put it. Both talking about the same thing. Very worth the watch.
Ken Wilber and Father Thomas Keating in discussion. This clip features Ken Wilber speaking about religion, the stages of understanding and relating to the Universe, or God. Both these human beings have a very lucid understanding of the nature of reality, though their language and style differs due to orientation.